原帖由 chrisalex 于 2009-2-4 22:17 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
很好的機器！
不是张版给了我LL的一锤，俺不一定下得了手:lol :lol :lol
原帖由 mifeng 于 2009-2-4 22:24 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
不是张版给了我LL的一锤，俺不一定下得了手:lol :lol :lol
是這樣嗎？
[ 本帖最后由 chrisalex 于 2009-2-4 22:35 编辑 ]
:lol :lol
晕，小张一句话，人家2万块册松。。。
http://stereophile.com/cdplayers/343/
stereophile当年的试听报告提到该机有一个显著特点：使用外部数码线连接数码输出到eclipse自己的数码输入，将bypass hdcd解码，这时听到的才是它真正的声音。我记得kevinlove也是这样用的。
According to Simaudio, jumpering the digital output and input bypasses the HDCD digital filter, the data being passed instead to the Burr-Brown filter chip. They feel, and I definitely agree, that although the market demands HDCD capability, the filter degrades the Eclipse's playback of non-encoded discs, slightly decreasing resolution and focus. So why not a switch? I ended up doing all of my listening using Nirvana's killer T-2 digital cable to bypass the HDCD chip.
Playing CDs via the HDCD filter, the unit's unbalanced maximum output level (MOL) was 1.93V, this doubling from the balanced outputs, as expected. With the Moon fed from an external digital source, I expected a 6dB rise in level; the external input bypasses the PMD100 filter, which drops the level of non-HDCD-encoded discs by the same 6dB. However, the maximum output level actually rose by 7dB for external sources, to a high 8.644V from the balanced output jacks. (This could prove problematic for some older preamps with switched-transistor volume controls.)
All of the above characteristics reflect the Eclipse's performance with its HDCD chip bypassed. With the HDCD filter/decoder in-circuit, the player was an entirely different animal. There were noticeable reductions in detail, clarity, and transparency. Transients sounded compressed and their leading edges dulled, giving the entire performance a liquid, laid-back character. The perspective changed as well, becoming more distant, and the soundstage itself was recessed, dropping back a few feet behind the plane of the speakers. If you want to hear what this player can do, take my—and Simaudio's—advice: bypass the HDCD chip.
晕。。。
俺英文不好，哪位猛人翻译一下，不过今天kevin的确是这么演示的，说是不这么弄不出声
原帖由 bearsea 于 2009-2-4 22:30 发表 http://www.headphoneclub.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif
http://stereophile.com/cdplayers/343/
stereophile当年的试听报告提到该机有一个显著特点：使用外部数码线连接数码输出到eclipse自己的数码输入，将bypass hdcd解码，这时听到的才是它真正的声音。我记得kevinl ...
前年难得看到兄弟一回啊
最近可好？
原帖由 lcj 于 2009-2-4 21:19 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
请问CDpro2和CDM12pro哪个好?
一样的
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原帖由 nadesicozhao 于 2009-2-4 23:43 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
前年难得看到兄弟一回啊
最近可好？
哈哈，还和以前一样啊，最近hifi没啥新搞头了，有空再去你家玩，看看又有啥新动态:lol
这台机器俺在kevinlove家听过2次，应该说是很不错的，有旗舰机的特点，就是各方面表现都很不错。俺曾经带去一台2000美元的解码器，接eclips的数字输出，和eclips自己的解码部分pk，结果发现还是eclips自己的解码部分更好。:lol :lol :lol
bearsea曾经试过用这台eclips的RCA模拟（通过转接头）输出直推hd580，效果惊人。kevinlove同志如果不是升级DCS的SACD，是绝对不会出这台机的:D :D :D
原帖由 ericzhu88 于 2009-2-5 09:34 发表 http://www.headphoneclub.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif
这台机器俺在kevinlove家听过2次，应该说是很不错的，有旗舰机的特点，就是各方面表现都很不错。俺曾经带去一台2000美元的解码器，接eclips的数字输出，和eclips自己的解码部分pk，结果发现还是eclips自己的解码部分 ...
我家没有直接转接头，所以只能用一个随身耳房连接mifeng的HD600,效果之差令人发指，我也记得bear同志以前的580直推声音不错的，看来是这个小东西带来太多的污染。
昨天mifeng同志其实给了我一个启发，我的650应该可以通过平衡线连接DCS直推，DCS自己带前级的，直推的话应该不会太差。
原帖由 kevinlove 于 2009-2-5 10:12 发表 http://www.headphoneclub.com/bbs/images/common/back.gif
我家没有直接转接头，所以只能用一个随身耳房连接mifeng的HD600,效果之差令人发指，我也记得bear同志以前的580直推声音不错的，看来是这个小东西带来太多的污染。
昨天mifeng同志其实给了我一个启发，我的650应 ...
kevin同志成功以后上个听感:lol
曾经有老烧跟我说过用LL前级直接推动耳机的概念，出于我前级没什么用，我没采纳意见
chrisalex斑竹这次翻拍的文章里面也有前级推动耳机的例子，好像效果很好！
对你来说650做个箱子之余的小补充接前级后面有空玩玩应该蛮LL:D
[ 本帖最后由 mifeng 于 2009-2-5 11:01 编辑 ]
原帖由 徕卡 于 2009-2-5 00:05 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif:lol :lol :lol
卖精图上面那对是啥后级？
这机的造型，有种，高档DIY的感觉！！ 没有高贵感！！
等白版的听感！！
