问一下，转盘和解码器也是像功放和音箱一样，有搭和不搭一说吗？谢谢。 原帖由 lus12 于 2011-6-13 18:28 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif多谢ls前辈的介绍。本来还在yy米格的当年高端的解码器duo pro。问一下，转盘和解码器也是像功放和音箱一样，有搭和不搭一说吗？谢谢。
理论上没有。
转盘其实是一个用来解决CD盘天生缺陷的工具...转起来不平衡...所以会产生阅读的错误...也就是好的与普通唱盘的区别。理论上它不解码所以它的输出只是0与1的数据。 外置时钟也让玩这玩意的发烧师兄们搞到天翻地覆。总之是有钱肯定可以花光。
如有机会，尝试用简单的机器如Sony PCM D50 播放 24/96 WAV好的录音+Lavry DA11（等所谓入门板的解码）PK同样5-10W的CD合并机的组合看看结果如何。 呵呵这个不能一概而论有的老解码素质和能力是强悍的 技术是超前的
有些就不一定了 为什么个人只认同老器材，因为以前做HI-FI的厂家比现在认真，不论是用料，制作还是效音，以前声音是真正凤格HI-FI，现在好多器材所谓新英国声，新美国声，新法国声。。。。。。:L 其实就是个性和风格的丧失，的确PC-FI的发展日新月异，但为什么有些老烧还在收藏LP，就是玩cd都有不少人对不同版本不同的音质，津津乐道了:)
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个人愚见。。。
如型号超过5年就可以不列为考虑原因是。。。电脑技术/芯片/软件科技一日千里，5年前尖端科技可能是今天中端科技的器材已经达到。
狗屁。
解码器的输出是模拟的，别把解码当电脑看。 原帖由 8492 于 2011-6-15 12:06 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
狗屁。
解码器的输出是模拟的，别把解码当电脑看。
84、说话要注意了~
欢迎讨论:handshake 原帖由 kell 于 2011-6-16 09:15 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif
84、说话要注意了~
欢迎讨论:handshake
这种YY装B的货就是欠骂，不骂才是不正常的。 就算有人的观念是错误的，指出就可以了，何必骂人呢？没有人生来就有正确的观念和认识的。这是其一，其二，观念不正确的人，也有发言权。 原帖由 小白 于 2011-6-16 20:54 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif就算有人的观念是错误的，指出就可以了，何必骂人呢？没有人生来就有正确的观念和认识的。这是其一，其二，观念不正确的人，也有发言权。
白兄与Kell版主谢谢啦。
何须动气？ 发怒有两个原因
1、事情没有按照自己希望的发展。
2、被碰触了自己的弱点。
ms 84属于第一种 观点错误？不懂，就TM少说两句。
这种把DAC当电脑讨论的言论，连我这种一贯主张器材买新不买旧的都看不下去。
根本就没听过没玩过没对比过，还硬要装B说得和真的一样。不是欠骂是什么？
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这位24.7.365朋友麻...人家有用过CD系统的，就是後来出掉了，都转做电脑档了。每个人经历的都不同，感受也就不同了。有时候言论不合理的可以说就说，不想说或不能说的无视就算了...
人的性格有连贯性，形象态度都一样，可用合适的话说出来，说服力就更大了。
甚麽人和事是一直都要追打的，甚麽是可以交待讨论的，能好好分别就做人做事都更好了。 A reply of my question to Lavry FYI.No need to argue on this topic and is never be my intention and interest (only text that I've deleted is my name, all text are original).Here's the reply from the specialist FYI (hope that this is useful for other forum users as a reference)...
Well, it really depends on how you define “computer.”
If you group all digital processors that perform some form of computation into the definition of “computer;” then you are correct. For example; there are specialized computational IC’s that are referred to as “DSP’s” for “Digital Signal Processor.”
However, in terms of popular usage; most people are referring to something like a personal computer or mainframe where information is stored, moved to and from mass storage (typically a hard drive or memory), and a “CPU” or “Central Processing Unit” controls all operations including moving data between mass storage and RAM, arithmetic functions, and file system control. Thus, what most people refer to as a “computer” has the ability to run different software and is thus more “user programmable” than dedicated “processors” that run one program which is typically “hard coded” in ROM or PROM memory.
Virtually all contemporary “DAC’s” are systems like a PC, where multiple IC’s have specific functions necessary to allow the DAC to accept inputs and output analog signals. Even the actual DA converter IC has a certain amount of computation internally because the vast majority operate on an “oversampling” principle that requires the output of the very high sample frequency converter to be manipulated mathematically to generate a 24 bit output at a lower sample frequency.
So strictly speaking; you are correct in that a contemporary DAC must “compute” in order to function. The question is more a matter of communication, and whether or not the term “computer” as most people understand it would include devices that are commonly referred to by other names such as “DSP” as a means to differentiate them from a PC or mainframe (or “smart phone”). It may be more accurate in terms of common usage to call a DAC a form of “DSP.”
For quite some time, automobiles have had multiple “computers” to control things like ignition and fuel injection. People still commonly refer to them as “computers” even though they are more similar to a DSP or DAC IC (dedicated processor) than a PC. So it is definitely a “grey area” and more a matter of syntax than strict definition.
Hope this helps.
Brad Johnson
Lavry Engineering Technical Support
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观点错误？不懂，就TM少说两句。
这种把DAC当电脑讨论的言论，连我这种一贯主张器材买新不买旧的都看不下去。
根本就没听过没玩过没对比过，还硬要装B说得和真的一样。不是欠骂是什么？
看不下去了，你以为你是谁啊？这个ID为什么不封掉？这这里堂而皇之地骂人!污染论坛环境！请斑竹给个说法！ 原帖由 wwwcom881225 于 2011-6-18 16:10 发表 http://bbs.headphoneclub.com/images/common/back.gif看不下去了，你以为你是谁啊？这个ID为什么不封掉？这这里堂而皇之地骂人!污染论坛环境！请斑竹给个说法！
师兄，不用动气。
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