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[耳机] 试听GRADO最受冷落的一款耳机:SR125i

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-12 18:51:31 | 显示全部楼层
如果要给个简化的描述,那就是:225整体上清晰度和凝聚性更好,声场也有些优势,但同样不容忽视的是125和225两副耳机性格上的差异,即125沉稳偏暗,重心低,225音色偏清亮一些,重心相对较高。如果有些人觉得225的音色过亮而宁可选择125,我觉得也是很正常的。

当然,现实中的SR125i配的是软海绵罩,那低频会稍更多一些,中高频更暗一些,与原配空心海绵罩的SR225i之间的性格差异就更大一些了。
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恩 我的80换上了硬海绵也有这样的感觉 低频少了 音色更亮一点 音场也变大了 不过我摇滚听的多啊……还是软海绵合适点

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软海绵罩在舒适度上还是占优势的,把头带扳扳松,软海绵罩可以非常舒服,所以现在新一代的SR60i、SR80i、SR125i舒适度都不错,比起老一代歌德耳机要好。硬耳罩舒适度稍差,但把头带扳松也会改善。
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原帖由 小白 于 2010-5-12 20:23 发表
软海绵罩在舒适度上还是占优势的,把头带扳扳松,软海绵罩可以非常舒服,所以现在新一代的SR60i、SR80i、SR125i舒适度都不错,比起老一代歌德耳机要好。硬耳罩舒适度稍差,但把头带扳松也会改善。
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恩,我也是觉得K601的性价比比125好多了。
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原帖由 695887997 于 2010-5-12 21:04 发表
恩,我也是觉得K601的性价比比125好多了。




K601比SR125难推多了。SR125搞个MP3或电脑声卡都可以,K601呢?MP3基本推得象蚊子叫或没吃饱饭,没有一部好的耳放,K601是难出象样声音的。
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至少,扳成“直线”之前是不会断的




hehe 其实扳为直线也未必断,但超过直线,再向反方向“曲线”时,可能断哦 ...... 慢慢扳,不要过分就是。
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原帖由 忽然散步 于 2010-5-11 22:47 发表
最近在单位发现个女烧友,有一只60一支225,喜欢听摇滚,借给我Mdac-2听了下,我也把rs1借给她听,因为她先前质疑我说,旗舰耳机的好是不是有点玄学。拿到办公室里后听了一耳朵,马上qq我说,确实好。

几天后,我 ...
我一向这样认为听歌就是听感情,所以喜欢歌德
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原帖由 小白 于 2010-5-12 11:26 发表




RS2的声音比RS1少了一些“强悍”,多了一些“温柔”,我觉得是有其存在必要的。当然,它受冷落也是很可理解之事。谁叫大哥太出风头呢?
温柔版RS1-------------RS2

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 楼主| 发表于 2010-5-12 22:58:54 | 显示全部楼层
最后让我翻译一下英国What Hi-Fi杂志对SR125的评论:

Ah, Grado headphones: their unique ‘1930s radio operator’ looks always divide opinion, but praise for their performance is typically universal. (啊,歌德耳机,他们独特的“1930年代电台收音员风格”的外表式样总是引起褒贬不一,但对它声音表现的赞扬则是很普遍的。)

We last reviewed the SR125s back in 1999, and moaned about poor comfort: a subsequent change of ear-pad design means no such gripes this time. (我们在1999年评论过SR125这副耳机,对它佩带的舒适度感到不满。这次,经过了耳罩设计的改革,这种关于佩带的抱怨终于可以结束了。)

These headphones are fast, dynamic and dig up plenty of detail. Whether you listen to Shostakovich or Paul Simon, there’s little else that communicates the music’s message so well. (这副耳机快速、动感、挖掘出丰富的声音细节。不管你是听肖斯塔科维奇还是保罗西蒙,很少有其他耳机能象它这样完好地表现出音乐的信息。)

The Grados time beautifully, and organise the various instrumental strands of a piece of music: you’ll never be in any doubt as to what the artist or the composer intended. (歌德耳机的节奏把握非常漂亮,把音乐的各个乐器组成融为一体:你可以清晰无误地感受到艺术家和作曲家的意图。)

The SR125s – like most Grados – are a very long-running design. It’s ironic then, that most of the rivals are still playing catch-up. (歌德SR125耳机,就象大多数歌德耳机一样,是一个长青树式的设计,但有意思的是,它的大多数竞争对手还在后面紧赶。)



What Hi-Fi对它评价得很高,也许有些夸张了,大家打点折读读可也。
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觉得What Hi-Fi不靠谱,那看看英国最老牌的古典音乐权威杂志Gramophone《留声机》对SR125的评论如何?

In years gone by, pickup cartridges were bought in large numbers as the whole world seemed keen to upgrade their record players with new pickups — or at least replacement styli. Europe's indigenous cartridge brands were joined by successful American imports mainly produced by hi-fl pioneers like Sidney Shure, Walter Stanton and Joe Grado. This pickup trade has shrunk considerably as the compact disc has largely superseded the LP.

However Goldring, while still manufacturing their own designs, took over the UK distribution of Grado Signature and Laboratory cartridges in February this year and in addition handle the company's Prestige range of five headphones as well. The relatively inexpensive SR-60 model (£89.95), reviewed by Geoffrey Horn in our June issue, has had a significant commercial success both here and in the USA in spite of, or perhaps partly because of, its being the cheapest in the range. The SR-125 model (L149.95) reviewed here is the middle-priced version and possesses a number of refinements.

Between you and me, my first thought when I examined these Grado headphones was how oldfashioned they looked. There has been no attempt to mould the plastics earpiece into tasteful shapes for cosmetic or comfortable wear reasons, but their ability to combine lightness with extreme rigidity and internal damping where needed has been put to good use. What we have are plain circular earpieces measuring only 55mm (2.2 in) across on to which are fitted removable black spongy earpads 78mm in diameter. The design is therefore supra-aural as the pads rest against the outer ear. The stirrup which holds the earpiece is again unadorned and allows a fair amount of tilting in the vertical plane. A straight pushthrough rod connects each stirrup to the headband so that the earpiece assemblies can rotate to any angle and be pushed away from the headband to accommodate any head size. The headband itself consists of a springy metal strip covered with black leathery material. This again harks back to very early headphone designs, as does the quite thick and stiff two-metre long connecting cable. This uses standard copper conductors, divides at a V-junction to feed the separate earpieces and is terminated in a gold-plated 6.3mm stereo jack plug.

There is nothing old-fashioned about the dynamic (moving-coil) transducer design. The 38mm diaphragm is made of low mass, transparent polymer, de-stressed to improve linearity of response. It has been formed in such a way, with a domed centre and corrugations at the outer rim, to reduce undesirable resonance modes. Mass and suspension compliance have been chosen for accurate placement of the main resonance to provide the target 20Hz-20kHz bandwidth free of low-frequency break-up. Bass response is enhanced by the provision of a rel atively large vented chamber, though the system is effectively open-back. The voice-coil uses high conductivity UHPLC (ultrahigh purity, long crystal) copper wire and is suspended in the field of a compact circular neodymium magnet giving high efficiency and control. After assembly the earpieces are pair matched to ensure optimum stereo imaging.

Performance

It so happened that I began my listening with a recently arrived CD of Daniel Barenboim conducting the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra in Bruckner's Eighth Symphony (Teldec CD 4509-94567-2). This is a live recording made in the orchestra's own Philharmonic Hall last year and I was delighted to hear an uncommonly natural spread of orchestral sound, courtesy of the SR-125s open-air design, so much more pleasing than the close in-head effect that headphone listening too often presents.

Of course switching between headphones and properly spaced loudspeakers (Quad ESL-63s) revealed the superiority of the lat ter from this soundstage point of view. Another plus point for these Grado headphones, however, was the fine tonal spread and balance not too far removed from that of the Quads themselves. Treble was lively without being chromium plated or tizzy, and bass seemed sufficiently extended to supply a solid foundation and realistic feeling of depth.

I could also hear occasionally something which I suspect was inaudible to the Philharmonic audience: Barenboim humming along with the music. I suppose this is a price we have to pay when the microphones unfortunately pick up an unwanted sound — perhaps a chair creaking or pages turning — and the special intimacy of headphone listening makes it more prominent. I did find that these headphones, though not at all designed to be particularly clever at excluding outside sounds, drew me into the musicmaking. Analytical listening was helped by the well-defined locations of individual instruments and voices. Centre soloists did tend to be somewhat in-head and not set back as in the loudspeaker situation, but only to a degree that I found perfectly acceptable.
One of my favourite CDs for checking this question of front-toback perspectives features Emma Kirkby beautifully recorded at a natural concert distance singing Mozart with the Academy of Ancient Music conducted by Christopher Hogwood (L'OiseauLyre CD 411 832-20H, 2/85). What was intended to be `a quick listen; turned into playing through the whole disc. I also found solo piano or guitar recordings very hard to switch off.

If headphones can be as musically satisfying as this, they must be pretty good. Though they weigh only about 150 grams, the SR-125's phones are not the most comfortable for protracted sessions, but their sound quality fully justifies that moderately high price. Take one of your favourite CDs along to your local dealer and see if you agree.

作者John Borwick,是英国一位颇有名气的Hi-Fi评论员,也是《留声机》杂志的音响主笔。
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