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这个R10......没听过的人无法想象有多好,听过的人呢,又是一股脑儿的溢美之辞,所以意义不大,最多知道有这么一件耳机极品就够了,哪天发财时不妨考虑考虑。
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 楼主| 发表于 2001-12-19 08:15:00 | 显示全部楼层

转个sony R10的评论大伙看看。(E文版)

看看那位大侠横空出世,翻一翻。
E文好的直接到 <A HREF="http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5008" TARGET=_blank>http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5008</A>
看看即可。&lt>
Associated Equipment
Before going into the sound of the R10s, I want to disclose my associated equipment:
Berning MicroZOTL headphone amp
Sony SCD-333ES SACD changer with Modwright mods &lt>Voicing
The voicing of high-end speakers tends be quite different from the voicing of speakers for the consumer market. In the consumer marketplace, busy people with only a passing interest in audio go to the big electronics chain stores. There, they are confronted with an array of different speakers and must do critical evaluations in noisy environments, receiving less than “expert” advice from store help. Consumer-oriented speakers are notoriously voiced to sound sharp, crisp and loud, and typically have exaggerated bass for a “wow” effect. After all, it has to leap out from the crowd and get the consumer’s attention during a 30-second “demo”, or it’s on to the next speaker. In fact, speakers voiced to grab your attention may well satisfy people who listen for short periods of time, or use music as the background to other activities. But for obsessives like you and me who will listen to those speakers with an almost supernatural concentration, poorly-voiced speakers will quickly start to grate on your nerves. This is known as “listening fatigue”. &lt>The Sony MDR-R10 is voiced a lot like a high-end speaker and is designed for the long haul. These are headphones you develop a relationship with, a bond, and a trust. I think Vertigo-1 was so nervous about my initial reaction because the R10s are not a showy, splashy whizz-bang product in the traditional sense. They are a refined musical instrument, and it didn’t take me long to spot that. I am NOT making excuses for the R10; these are in fact high compliments. &lt>However, if you were to pick up the R10s on one of those abominable “headphone kiosks” and compare it to consumer models, they might not really stick out. You might gravitate toward the Grado’s bass, AKG’s soundstage, the CD3000’s “clarity”, the HD600s “airyness”, or any other headphone’s signature “gimmick”. The Sony R10’s do not employ any gimmicks, tricks, or exaggerations. They give pure music exactly as it is. Maybe just sounding “right” is in itself is a gimmick, but who cares, just listen! &lt>The result of this easy, steady, and distortion-free presentation is the enhanced ability to listen to these headphones long-term, and that’s what we like to do isn’t it? &lt>It should be noted that this quality might actually turn off some listeners of hard rock or electronica. The R10s are in control of the sound, presenting it clearly and cleanly, thus removing some of the “visceral” experience of this kind of music. I think this may be what Vertigo-1 was reacting to when he listed all the kinds of music the R10 are “not suited for”. For me, though, the ease and command of the R10s make them the best hard-rockin’ phones of all. They really let you ease into the sound, making it much easier to listen to intense music for longer periods of time. They make sense out of the chaos, without losing the energy of the performance or truncating the sound on top or bottom. &lt>So, does it sound more like the HD600, the CD3000, or the RS1? None of the above. Although it’s been months since I’ve had them, the R10’s remind me somewhat of the ER4S. Chiefly, this is due to the linearity of both headphones’ frequency response, along with that wonderful fluid, grain-free quality both headphones possess. The R10’s seem to lack distortion almost completely. The music just flows, delivering the sound in its entirety without comment, much like the ER4S. &lt>Also like the ER4S, the integration between lows, mids, and highs is seamless. You aren’t aware of any anomalies, irregularities, or gaps between frequencies. In contrast, the CD3000 sounds like the treble, mids, and bass are being delivered by separate drivers. &lt>Tone and Timbre
Again, these sound more like great speakers than headphones. By far the most “natural” sounding headphones I’ve heard. She caresses, she soothes, she seethes, she tingles, she effervesces, she delights. She does not slam, screech, squeal, wallop, hammer, stab or scratch. Some might find the sound a touch on the dry side, but I’d call that “transparency”. I don’t find them “warm”, but remarkably “clear” and “open”. On the other hand, they are not “clinical” or “sterile”. Again, the R10 just gets out of the way of the music. &lt>The R10s truly paint with a bigger sonic palette than any other headphone I’ve tried. Everything sounds new through these phones. There’s a hidden treasure of sounds and tones in your CDs that you don’t even know about! With well-recorded CDs the sound is just amazing. SACD’s and DVD-A’s give me chills. <P>One of the best things about the R10 is their ability to literally make sense out of recordings I had previously thought were atrocious. CDs I thought were too bright or brittle now sound listenable. CDs that were dark or muddy are more clear and coherent. I now realize that it was not necessarily the CD that was at fault, I simply lacked the right equipment to reproduce the sound as it was meant to be heard. You suddenly start to appreciate why producers, mixers, engineers, and artists made some of the decisions they did. I chalk this effect up to the R10’s ability to effortlessly reproduce everything you throw at it. This has re-opened vast wings of my CD collection to re-examination. <P>In the future, headphone designers will measure brainwaves to determine the exact tonal balance that causes the maximum amount of pleasure in the greatest number of people. Until then, we have the R10. <P>Soundstage/Imaging
I am an imaging freak. I listen with my eyes closed, and part of the joy of music for me is in allowing my brain to imagine the performance. The R10 provides the best soundstage and imaging of any headphone I’ve heard. Left-to-right imaging is phenomenal, but the soundstage is wider than it is high. It’s like your sitting in a widescreen movie theater. These phones eliminate the 3 separate blobs effect common with other headphones; it’s all one large, wide continuous image. Electronic sounds that zip from one side of the soundstage to the other do so with an eerie reality. Although this is a closed phone, the soundstage extends well beyond your head, and is larger left-to-right than any I’ve heard. <P>No headphones I’ve experienced, the R10 included, convey the same sense of image depth that you get with good loudspeakers in a big room. The R10s have a superior sense of depth compared to the other headphones I’ve tried. Drums sound like they are actually behind the singer. Sound effects zoom in from the distance and smack you on the nose. You are positioned further back from the soundstage than you are with the CD3000. The R10’s are closer to the perspective of the HD600, yet the soundstage is much bigger and more substantial than that of the Sennheisers. <P>Part of imaging is the ability to keep separate sounds and instruments distinct from one another, even through the most intense passages. The R10s excel in their ability to add layers of sound one on top of the other without smearing or distorting. At will, you can choose to focus on any instrument, any voice, any sound effect, any track from start to finish and it will maintain its sonic integrity 100%. In the future, producers will make use of 500-track studios to build outrageously complex musical tracks to assault the ears of the teenagers in the year 3001. It will be necessary to develop headphones that can reproduce all those sounds simultaneously without it all turning to mush. The R10 is there now. <P>Detail
The R10s allow you to hear every single track, every sound on that master tape, but it’s definitely not tipped-up, brittle, or analytical detail. These are true “high-resolution” headphones. It’s like switching your monitor from 800 x 600 to 1024 x 768. The R10 reveals a bumper crop of new musical information from your favorite CDs. You get to hear them all for the first time again. <P>The R10 translates words that other headphones garble. You will find yourself constantly experiencing new revelations in the lyrics of your favorite songs. “Oh, so THAT’S what he’s really saying!” <P>Treble
OK, it’s not as showy as the CD3000. The CD3000 has treble that goes up, up, up, in an unfettered, free-flowing, crystalline way. The R10 is not truncated in any way, but the treble does not have the CD3000’s slight tendency to attack, pierce, and zing. That said, the R10s have much more up top than the woolly HD600, so if you are upgrading from those, you won’t experience any loss of highs. The R10s are also much, much more “airy” up top than the CD3000, which sounds “etched” in comparison. <P>Midrange
What is not to love? Welcome to the star of the show!
After listening to the R10, you realize that your current headphones are “scooped out” in the middle. Another pet peeve of mine about headphone listening is the nagging sense that headphone sound is “hollow” and “insubstantial” compared to regular speakers. Well, it doesn’t have to be so. The R10’s midrange is not disproportionately emphasized compared to the highs and lows—it’s fully integrated. Yet it has much more “presence” than the CD3000, which in turn I thought had more “presence” than the HD600. <P>In fact, I’d call the HD600 and the R10 the North and South poles of midrange—opposites. Where the HD600 is “light” and “airy”, the R10 is passionate and emphatic. The sound of the R10’s mids is full without being at all syrupy or colored, though it is certainly seductive and pleasing. <P>Bass
Let’s face it folks, there is just no way to get that 1000 watt 15-inch subwoofer sound with a pair of headphones. If any headphone in history had a shot at providing that kind of visceral bass experience, I think it’s probably the R10. Electrostatic speakers are often cited as being bass-shy, and aren’t physically able to deliver the same kind of impact as a standard dynamic design. The R10 is the world’s most expensive dynamic phone, so I held out the hope that they might re-define headphone bass response. Well, that was not to be. <P>Nevertheless, this is tight, tight bass. It attacks with surgical precision and is very quick and firm. This is extremely accurate bass, but it lacks the slam and weight you get through floor-standing speakers let alone a subwoofer. <P>The R10’s do solve one “problem” with typical headphone bass. To me, bass through other headphones is somewhat amorphous, non-directional and disconnected from the rest of the sound. It never really sounds like an instrument is being played. Through the R10’s, however, you get that tactile suppleness that well-powered full-range speakers give you, enabling you to “see” where the bassist is standing, and fully hear the pluck of the string, the attack of the note, and the resonance it gives off. The bass is “seen” as much as it’s “felt”. <P>Drum hits have the same tight thump and thud of the CD3000. It’s a very realistic presentation of percussive sounds that brings out the tightness of the drum skin and the weight of the strike. The R10 has more substantial-sounding bass than the HD600, and goes almost as deep. <P>IMHO, the only people who would complain about the bass of the R10s are the usual suspects—“dumbasses” or inexperienced listeners looking for that “wow” effect. The R10s don’t seem to go any lower than the other headphones I’ve owned, but the bass is more complete and more carefully defined and even “detailed” than any other. I give the bass very high marks. <P>To summarize: tight, distortion-free bass that won’t wow you with its depth, or pummel you with excessive, flabby energy. The CD3000s now sound amorphous and “rubbery” in comparison. <P>Summary
The Sony R10 is superior to any other headphone I&#39ve heard. This is a much greater increase in performance than switching between the HD600 and the CD3000, for example. The R10&#39s are truly in a different class altogether. It makes other headphones sound like toys. I&#39m sorry I had to say that to you, but it&#39s true. <P>So, how much of the R10’s performance do you get with the CD3000? This comparison is not really fair as the R10s don’t sound that much like the CD3000. The leap in sonic quality from the CD3000 to R10 is not like the jump in performance you’d expect by simply going up to the next model in a headphone manufacturer’s line. It’s more like jumping up to the best model in an entirely different audiophile line, which in fact is what you are doing! <P>Are they worth $4000? This may surprise many of you after reading all my rhapsodic remarks, but I’m afraid the answer for me is “no”. I think they are over-priced for what you get. Build quality is not up to its price tag, period. Sonically, it’s a huge jump up from the $400-$700 headphones most of us are familiar with. If you paid $2500 for them, that would be fair. I would wait and find a used pair, but you may be waiting a long time for that! <P>Are there any kinds of music the R10 is not suited for? I just shake my head when I see people ask “what are the best headphones for classical”? Headphones specifically designed for one kind of music are “colored” to my mind. Sound is sound, period. A good headphone is a good headphone, period, and should be able to reproduce all sound frequencies and all musical styles with equal aplomb. By that definition, the R10 is definitely a “good” headphone, make that a “great” headphone. No matter what your musical taste, the R10 will satisfy you. <P>Is there “more” and “better” out there? What about the Omega and the Orpheus? Frankly, I just don’t care anymore. What’s THAT feeling worth to you? What price can you put on that kind of satisfaction? For me, it was definitely worth the money I invested in the Sony MDR-R10! <P>markl
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