很少有人欣赏到SCHNABEL贝钢的魅力，因为EMI 录音太垃圾：施大爷贝钢作品14CD发烧天碟

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原帖由 ypwangwei 于 2012-8-21 20:25 发表
不是冤家不聚首，三个死老头子的贝钢奏开会了。

235392

除了那貝, 另外兩個都有了

ypwangwei

哈哈，您还有巴克 呢

708300

老外也是众说纷纭：
Laurence Levine says:
I got the Dante, but found it uneven. Some of the transfers were slightly off. Because I don't mind surface noise, I purchased the Pearl set. I find the transfers to be the best I've heard on CD, in other words acceptable. Though they were taken from 78s, I found the sound to be only as good as the Seraphim LP transfer, which I have strong memories of. I have heard that the best transfer was the first boxed set appearance of the sonatas on RCA Victor. I have not heard that set.

I have the 5LP RCA Victor set of the concertos. The sound quality is superior to all other appearances I've heard, either on CD (even Pearl) or LP. I wish someone would transfer all of the Beethoven Society recordings in the best quality sound. I do not mind surface noice.
这个老外说DANTE转录的效果不平均，有些不太好，他推荐RCA Victor头版LP.

再来看下面这个：
That being established (or not, as it were), the question comes up as to which transfer of these performances. The first answer can easily be had: NOT the EMI transfers. They are probably the worst(except for some excerpts on a Philips collection of these pieces) I have heard. Neither really clean nor realistic, they will offend most anyone.

If you can't stand surface noise, hiss, hickups and speckle you will be best off with the DANTE transfers. Very little noise but also rather thin... some will argue that the life has been sucked out of them. But on the surface (literally), they are the least offensive.

If you rather have general hiss, noise and whatnot... but can't stand a 'veil' over the playing and want to hear the fullest piano sound (apart from that white noise)... i.e. if you want your brain to filter it out rather than have it be done for you by a computer (which usually means quicker listening-fatigue), you might want to go for PEARL's "natural" transfers.

If you don't want either extreme, go for the well and fairly balanced NAXOS recordings which M.Obert-Thorn put together very well. Best of both worlds - perhaps... but probably still too much noise for the noise-sensitive and maybe not enough realism for those who want to hear as much as they can, even if that means hearing it through the densest, spottiest fire of cracks and plucks and hisses.
这位老外说转录EMI是最差的，如果你不能忍受底躁DANTE是让你最舒服的，但是声音薄啊，不鲜活，我最担心也就是这个，如果你不在乎底躁PEARL是所谓最自然的转录，折中的话选NAXOS，也是这个老外的最后选择，认为NAXOS最合适。
我本人比较认同上面这个老外的观点，当然我没有听过DANTE，不能置评，底躁对于我无所谓，所以我选PEARL。

ruabrandao

原帖由 ypwangwei 于 2012-8-21 22:48 发表
哈哈，您还有巴克 呢

還有GULDA  

巴克出了

708300

如果不缺银子，建议统统保留，一套听着，一套摆着看，呵呵。
我原来把EMI巴伦那套环保和ART NOVA的波尔那套环保都留着呢，偶尔听一下，也觉得不错，直到家里CD太多放不下，送给刚听古典的大侠了。

ypwangwei

Gulda 快出吧。我有过的也出了。象机器弹的，飞快，干净，没感情。

708300

Gulda在ORFEO的那套现场的如何啊，哪位大侠听过。

ypwangwei

Pearl 应该不错，不过都是绝版单片，收起来太麻烦了 ....

708300

关键是看能否忍受底躁，老版的都是大厚盒的，至少都是双张的，5个大厚盒，其中第四集最难买到，我千辛万苦最后高价买了一个德版的小双张，唉。

ypwangwei

Dante 的水准是业内皆知的。底噪没有了，即使损失些厚重感，也只是相对而已，我个人觉得整体是非常值得的。:D

jacob1990

Pearl 版的淘宝上有额 现在卖的是新版的么？看见个VOL 3  160多

ramos

DANTE这个厂由于转过几个非常烂的录音我对它印象很不好……现在也开始出精品了？

708300

有机会一定要听一下。施纳贝尔于贝钢奏，和卡萨尔斯于巴赫大无，都是绕不过去的，只要喜欢这2个曲目一定都会至少有一个版本备着，可惜录音都不好。

ypwangwei

您在哪个城市？能当面比下就好了。

708300

应该只有这一卷还在出，一共5集啊，凑齐有相当难度，尤其是第四卷。