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There are not too many headphones listed here that I truly dislike. I happen to enjoy most of the headphones included, and I can usually find at least one redeeming quality in a headphone, even should I feel it misses the mark. Unfortunately, the only truly redeeming quality that I can find in the ATH-W5000 is that it is one of the best looking headphones ever made. I find its sound quality to be bordering on awful.

作为一个宽容的聆听者,我真的很少有听了确实不喜欢的耳机。任何耳机,甚至是那些我认为不值这个价的耳机,总是多多少少有一些优点,哪怕只有一个。不幸的是,今天吐槽的对象,铁三角W5000的唯一的优点就是“外观最佳”。 对于声音,我觉得简直可以用操蛋来形容。



I purchased a pair of the ATH-W5000 in 2007. I was completely shocked by how poorly it performed. Today, it remains the only headphone that I have ever returned. A couple of years later, I was informed by a respected member of the community that he had encountered two different pairs of the ATH-W5000. According to him, the earlier one sounded defective, while the later one sounded a bit better. After I was given this information, I contacted the manufacturer to see if there was any record of changes made with regard to the production of the W5000. According to the manufacturer, there was no record of a production change and there were no documented defects.

我是在2007年购入这幅ATH W5000的。其声音之差让我着实震惊不小。直至今日,W5000仍然保持的一项纪录:就是这是我唯一无法忍受而最终退货的耳机。数年之后,论坛上的老烧告诉我,他碰到过两种完全不同的ATH-W5000. 就他个人经验而言,先前的一副声音确实很差,而后来的那副也是稍有进步而已。得知此事之后,我联系了厂家询问是否W5000的规格有所变更,但是厂家的官方回答是:没有记录显示生产工艺的变化也没有记录在案瑕疵可查。(编者按:官方的说法果然很官方啊———)

However, I was convinced that the pair I had initially purchased was defective since so many people seemed to like the sound of the W5000. In 2010, I purchased the ATH-W5000 for a second time. It sounded about as bad as I remembered. The only way that I can even begin to appreciate its sonic presentation is at an exceptionally low volume level.

然而奇怪的是,由于许多人都声称喜欢W5000的声音。让我不得不相信,当年是我自己倒霉买到了瑕疵品(编者按:你确定不是在淘宝买的厂货?或高仿?)因此,在2010年,我重新买了一副W5000, 看声音还是和当年记忆中的一样操蛋。时至今日,我仍然只能接受这幅耳机在不出声时候的声音表现。(编者按:高级黑+端子手!)


STRENGTHS 优点
ATTRACTIVE: I still think this is the most beautiful looking headphone that Audio-Technica has ever made. Its striped ebony wood finish is even prettier to my eye than the cherry wood finish of the ATH-W3000ANV (Audio-Technica's newer and far greater flagship).


外表淫荡: 我还是要说,这是外表最淫荡的铁三角耳机之一。 那种条纹的黑檀木所展示的纹理对我而言比ATH -W3000Anv的樱桃木和越前漆都更为迷人。

COMFORT: Audio-Technica's leather earpads are very soft. While I'm not a fan of the self-adjusting headband design, the ergonomic fit of the headphone allows the earpads to loosely encompass the ears, which is rather comfortable. I have a larger-than-average-size head. It is possible that one with a smaller head may find that the W5000 wears a bit too loosely.

舒适:真皮耳罩异常柔然。尽管我不是传说中的铁三角饭,但是铁三角的“自适应”的头梁的人体工学设计让耳罩松松的环绕整个耳朵,确实是无比舒适的享受。而作为大头党的一员,W5000对于我来说正好也许对于小头党来说就有可能太松了一点(编者按:6个字可以完全说明白:耳罩软,不夹头)

STORAGE: The W5000 ships with a really wonderful carrying case. It looks like a hard plastic suitcase specifically designed for your headphones. The case features a wonderfully silky interior as well.

包装: 塑料包装盒非常气派。内部有丝绸衬里。(编者按: 没什么好夸的了,只能那包装充数)

ISOLATION: The ATH-W5000 is one of a small handful of full-size closed-back headphones on my list. Because of its closed-back design, it offers some attenuation of outside ambient noise.

隔音: 作为笔者拥有的少数几只全尺寸的封闭式耳机,隔音效果比开放是耳机好上不少(编者按:这不是废话吗?)


WEAKNESSES 缺点
SOUND: Normally, I would evaluate several distinct attributes of the sound in order to determine which are successful and which are in need improvement. In this case, I find that the sound is simply poor all around. It is a nasal, congested, non-transparent, bass-less, unnatural tone.

声音: 四个字,一无是处。

HEADBAND CONSTRUCTION: I'm not a fan of Audio-Technica's self-adjusting headband design. I think it is flimsy and easily breakable. While many of Audio-Technica's full-size flagships incorporate this headband design, I do wish this design was something they would abandon.

头梁: 我不喜欢头梁的自适应设计。 看起来摇摇欲坠,颇有中国哈尔滨大桥的神韵。。当然这种设计是铁三角的旗舰耳机的招牌标志之一,我只能期待那天新出的旗舰能够放弃这种脑残的设计。

ON THE FENCE 其他
LOW LEVEL LISTENING: The W5000 sounds drastically improved at lower volume levels. No, I'm not trying to be funny by saying "the closer I get to not hearing it, the better" . At exceptionally low listening levels, the sound broadens and becomes more natural.

在极低音量时,W5000的声音听起来就没有那么差了。你不要误会我是在吐槽“ 只有在不出声时的声音表现才更好”(其实我就是这个意思)。在极其极其低音量下,声场变得更宽广,音色也更为中性:

POWERING: Audio-Technica produced an amp specifically designed to power the W5000. It is known as the HA-5000. I am told by some owners of this pairing that the sonic results are stunning. I have never heard this pairing, so I do not know. In my experience, I have found that the W5000 never loses its nasal, unnatural character despite which amp I choose to pair it with. Of the amps I've used, I have found that it sounds best with the TTVJ Millett 307a, but it still does not sound particularly good.

驱动: 铁三角提供原配西装耳放HA-5000. 一些烧友告诉我5K西装的表现令人瞠目结舌,但是我还没有听过西装的表现,所以无法评价。就我个人耳放搭配经验而言,换任何耳放都无法改变W5000捏着鼻子似的人妖声音;就我使用过的耳放而言,和TTVJ Millett 307a搭下来效果不错。可是还是远不能用好来形容。

CABLE: The W5000's cable is of a fairly high quality. However, I always prefer easily detachable cables. The W5000's cable is hardwired.
耳机线:质量不错。不可拆换。

FOR THE PRICE 性价比
F (F*ck)
I won't be giving out too many F's in this evaluation. Unfortunately, the ATH-W5000 is just insufferably nasal sounding to my ears. The drivers sound as though they are being restrained. Perhaps if it were an open-back design, the sound would improve quite a bit. At its price, I feel that every other full-size headphone I have heard outperforms it by leaps and bounds.

作为宽容的耳机大神,我一般不会给一副耳机评"F" .不幸的是,W5000的人妖声音让我实在无法忍受,好像就像捏着鼻子在吟唱一样。也许把耳罩拿掉,声音会变得好听一些。在这个价位,我听过的任何其他的全尺寸耳机都比这个强得多

QUICK CHECK
DESIGN: Full-Size 设计 全尺寸
DRIVERS: Dynamic 单元:动圈
IMPEDANCE: 40 Ohms 阻抗: 40欧
ISOLATION: Some :隔音: 凑乎
AMPLIFICATION: Recommended  耳放:推荐上放。
MY PREFERRED AMP: TTVJ Millett 307A 我比较推荐的耳放: TTVJ Millett 307A
SOUNDS BEST WITH: Low level listening 最佳适合音乐: 哑剧
CABLES USED: Stock :线缆:固定
REVISIONS KNOWN: None known to me 改版:不详
FLAGSHIP STATUS: Once Was  旗舰:曾是
PRODUCTION STATUS AS OF 2012: In Production 在产
COST: $650-$1000 (estimated) 价格: 美刀 650-1000





[ 本帖最后由 kevinsh 于 2012-11-9 11:52 编辑 ]
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发表于 2012-11-8 15:33:52 | 显示全部楼层
这个应该是最蛋疼的一篇听感了
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发表于 2012-11-8 15:40:01 | 显示全部楼层
坐等铁饭出来辩护
我职业特性我听音感扭曲我常打酱油
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 楼主| 发表于 2012-11-8 15:52:53 | 显示全部楼层
楼主就是一高级黑。

最冷的W5000只有在不出声的时候声音表现最好。我WTF,

[ 本帖最后由 kevinsh 于 2012-11-8 16:08 编辑 ]
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发表于 2012-11-8 16:13:20 | 显示全部楼层
可能是没搭配好吧。

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发表于 2012-11-8 16:28:34 | 显示全部楼层
呵呵,或许是听音类型不合适吧···
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发表于 2012-11-8 16:36:23 | 显示全部楼层
- -贬的一文不值咯....
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发表于 2012-11-8 16:37:55 | 显示全部楼层
此人很喜欢中性呈现,那一定不会喜欢老铁的。。
HIFI→HUFI→HUEND→HUESTED→QUESTED→多媒体2.1
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发表于 2012-11-8 16:39:02 | 显示全部楼层
欧美好像普遍不搭理老铁这种调音

&就我现在听过的二房来说,除了胆机,其他二房推老铁不能听……(胆机也就推的能听……)(当然我没听过西装)

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#24 AUDIO-TECHNICA: ATH-W3000ANV
看来对3kanv评价不错,谁翻译下
HIFI→HUFI→HUEND→HUESTED→QUESTED→多媒体2.1
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我来翻译吧……搞定一半了
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发表于 2012-11-8 17:56:03 | 显示全部楼层
确实有点黑的太猛了,个人从来没有喜欢过老铁的东东,可能听习惯了德系美系的耳机确实受不了老铁的耳机,但是也不至于被贬成这个德行啊,不过说句不好听的,这个5000确实够坑爹的,就在昨天还在飞翔听了一下这套西装,这么贵的耳机出这样的声音真是无语
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发表于 2012-11-8 17:59:02 | 显示全部楼层
低烧怡情,高烧伤身
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