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[附件] 值得推荐——美国W4S的USB净化小玩具Recovery

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现在很多发烧友采用电脑USB输出 - DAC解码器的方式作为音源。在这个架构下,来自电脑USB口的数据,往往受到电脑噪音、电磁辐射等的干扰而显得比较“脏”。本身来自电脑的音频数据流,其时钟精度也不可能高,实际往往jitter很高,对于接收端的解码器来说,在很大程度限制了其表现,换言之哪怕你用了顶级的解码器,也会受限于来自电脑的USB音频流的质量,而最终出来的声音平平。


在这个情况下,要提升“电脑 - 解码器”这个音源组合的素质,有两个办法,一是使用结构干净、功能单一、USB输出质量较高的“专机”或者专用数播(比如Aries、Aurender),另外一个就是给普通电脑加一个所谓“USB净化器”。前者暂且不说,一般也代价不菲,后者的好处是通过一个并不贵的净化装置,提升电脑USB输出数据的质量。


我之前介绍过的国内设计制造的“泰坦鸟”和逸恒“魔方”就是此类小玩具,他们原理不同,但起的作用类似,都是过滤、重整USB信号,给解码器提供质量更好的USB audio stream,实际得到的音质提高也是非常明显可闻的。记得我第一次听的此类设备是逸恒“魔方”,当时对声音的改善觉得非常惊讶,兴奋地直接写了一个长贴,称之为改变了自己观念的、有启示性的玩具。得到的启示是:原来通过对USB信号进行净化,可以得到如此明显的音质提高。


国外也有几种起到这种作用的USB净化器,其中我玩过觉得很不错的、价格不贵而值得推荐的是美国Wyred4Sound(一般简称W4S)出品的Recovery。这个小玩意美国售价199美金,国内1799元人民币,美国制造(W4S的产品全部在美国制造),包装内还原配了一个9V直流输出的稳压电源。使用非常方便,就是把它接在电脑和解码器之间——电脑USB接到Recovery,然后Recovery再USB输出到解码器。无需驱动,只要多用一根USB线,就完成了USB净化的作用。来自电脑的USB数据流,进入Recovery之后经过它内部Femto高精度时钟的优化之后,输出高质量的USB音频流到解码器。主要是两个作用:1、消除来自电脑的噪声,2、利用Recovery的Femto Clock提高音频流的时钟精度。





下图是简单的接口和使用示意图示意图。两个指示灯,上面灯亮表示接收到信号,下面灯亮表示是USB2.0(不亮表示USB1.0)。



提示一下,假如就用原配那截短USB线,那么建议把Recovery放在接近解码器的地方,也就是电脑 - 发烧USB - Recovery - USB短线 - 解码器。这样声音更好。

下面是一篇国外的USB净化器的评论,其中给予Recovery非常高的评价,而且把它与另外三个国外比较流行的USB净化器做了横向对比。最后的结论是:Recovery是最为推荐、评价最高的。有兴趣的可以读读下面原文,要快速得到结论的请看夹杂在中间我翻译的中文部分即可。当然这个只是一家之言,我没有听过其他几个USB净化器(iFi的很久前听过,但记忆不深了),但就单独而言,我觉得作者对Recovery的声音改善,还是描述得准确的——声音中性、平衡、声场和信息量增大,全频层次感都更好,声音聚焦更鲜明锐利。原文链接:https://www.audiostream.com/content/wyred-4-sound-recovery-usb-reclocker


The Recovery goes beyond what a simple filter accomplishes by using a very accurate Femto clock to reclock and reduce the jitter presented to the DAC allowing it to function in a superior manner.

The internal power supplies of the Recovery are low noise, low-drop out regulators. An external SMPS is provided to power the Recovery. A short 6-inch USB cable is also included to connect the Recovery to your DAC. The Recovery works best when placed after your USB cable from the computer so it is close to the DAC. The Recovery is a plug 'n play device that only requires one to plug in the power supply after the connections are made. The Recovery does not provide galvanic isolation like the Intona Technology USB 2.0 High-Speed Isolator that I recently reviewed for AudioStream. Wyred 4 Sound felt that this particular feature was unnecessary as their DAC-1 LE and DAC-2 DSD/DSDse incorporate galvanic isolation.


Components Used in the Recovery Evaluation
I used my Asus G501 JW laptop running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit for the evaluation of the Recovery USB Reclocker. The Asus G501 JW possesses an Intel Core i7 4720HQ 2.6 GHz processor with 16 GB RAM and a very fast PCE Express X4 SSD. This laptop has 3 USB 3.0 ports as well as a Thunderbolt port. The Asus laptop was plugged into a Shunyata Research Hydra DPC-6 v2 distribution center to firewall the noise generated by this computer from contaminating my AC line.

The Asus was placed on a Synergistic Research Tranquility Base UEF grounded with the Synergistic Research High Definition Ground Cable / Grounding Block as was the computer. Two 8 TB GRAID Thunderbolt drives were connected; one for PCM and the other for DSD files. The GRAID Thunderbolt drives were powered by HDPlex 100w linear power supplies plugged into the Shunyata Hydra DPC-6 ver 2.

Music software included the use of Roon 1.2. I also ran Roon with the HQPlayer that was given the task of processing the music files to DSD256. Fidelizer Pro 7.3 was employed to optimize the operation of Windows 10 Pro for music playback.

I decided to use the MSB Technology Analog DAC with Analog Power Base with their Premium Quad USB2 Module for this review. The Premium Quad Module represents MSB Technology’s most advanced implementation of USB for their DAC with superior isolation compared to their previous efforts. I was very interested to see if the Recovery USB Reclocker would have an effect with the very well isolated MSB Technology interface. The Analog DAC was plugged into a Shunyata Research Triton v2 / Typhon using Shunyata’s Sigma Digital AC cable.

USB cables utilized in this review were the Wireworld Platinum Starlight 7 USB 2.0 cable and the Kubala-Sosna Research Realization USB cable. Both of these USB cables are excellent sounding and have been reviewed here for those interested in more details.

The power supply of the Recovery USB Reclocker was powered from the Shunyata Hydra DPC-6 v2.

  

The Sound of the Recovery USB Reclocker
Using the power supply and the 6-inch USB cable provided by Wyred 4 Sound, I experienced a definite improvement to the sound I was hearing from the MSB Technology Analog DAC. The bass and the mid bass were better defined with the Recovery and more dynamic sounding. The midrange’s focus was sharper and appeared to move slightly forward in the soundstage compared to the sound with no Recovery. I felt that the highs had better definition that was probably helped by a perceived reduced noise floor. The soundstage appeared wider with the use of the Recovery providing a lager sonic presence to the sound. I was unable to find any negatives to attribute to the contribution the Recovery made to my Analog DAC; it just improved what I was hearing.


使用原配的USB接线和电源,我把Recovery用于MSB Analog解码器,听到了明确的声音提升。低频和低频上段层次和解析更好,也更为动感。中频的聚焦更锐利,和不用Recovery时相比也更为凸现。高频解析提高,整体声音的底噪明显降低。使用之后声场也会变大,造成更真实可信的临场感。对于我的听音系统来说,我找不出什么负面的影响,听起来就是全面性的提升。

  

My Music Benefited From the Recovery USB Reclocker
It was very easy to hear the positive sonic contribution the Recovery made listening to Gregory Porter’s Take Me to the Alley (24/96). This jazz singer’s voice was enhanced with more presence while listening to this collection with the Recovery. Not only was Porter’s voice clearer and better focused, but also the bass had superior definition, as did the percussion. I felt that the music I was hearing was more dynamically expressive when I listening with the Recovery.

The DSD64 Channel Classics recording of Ivan Fischer and Budapest Festival Orchestra performing the Mahler 9 Symphony easily displayed the capabilities of the Recovery USB Reclocker. This wonderfully expressive and involving recording seemed to be more harmonically rich listening to it with the Recovery. There was a greater sense of orchestral "bloom" with superior three-dimensionality to the sound. Low-level information was easier to identify with superior reproduction of instrumental textures.

  

While listening to The Traveling Wilburys Collection (24/192) it didn’t take me long to identify the positive contribution made by the Recovery. This super group recording comprised of Roy Orbison, Jeff Lynne, Bob Dylan, Tom Petty, and George Harrison was reissued and remastered by Concord Records, The band recorded two albums in 1988 and 1990, but Roy Orbison passed away before the second album was recorded. The Recovery improved these recordings with a relaxed presentation that let the music flow with no digital hardness. The Recovery just made the music more emotionally involving.


Enhancement to the Recovery USB Reclocker

The question that many of you USB tweakers will ask is if the Recovery can be improved with a better power supply and or different short USB cable. I connected the HDPlex linear power supply to the Recovery and noticed a slightly larger soundstage than that provided with the standard power supply. I also felt that the HDPlex improved the overall resolution to what I was hearing with a lower noise floor. Substituting a short iFi Audio Mercury USB cable for the Wyred 4 Sound USB cable did seem to open the sound by a small margin. So yes, substituting a different power supply and USB cable can improve the sound. But the final outcome for each user will differ with different DACs and systems.


Comparisons

I decided to base the comparisons of different USB enhancement devices with the supplied cables / connectors, and power supplies that come with each product.

The iFi Audio micro-iUSB3.0
As reported in my review of the micro-iUSB3.0, the sound using the supplied USB 3.0 cable and iPower power supply was warm with a full mid bass. The Recovery USB Reclocker has the larger soundstage and a more balanced tonality that was relatively neutral compared to the micro-iUSB3.0.

The Uptone Audio USB REGEN
Using the solid connector and the supplied power supply, I found the USB REGEN to have a lighter sound with less bass than the Recovery USB Reclocker. There is a great sense of clarity to the sound of the USB REGEN, but again, the Recovery USB Reclocker sounded to my ear to be better balanced and more neutral.

The Intona Technology USB 2.0 High-Speed Isolator
The Intona USB 2.0 High-Speed Isolator (Industrial Version) had a similar overall tonal balance compared to the Recovery USB Reclocker, but was slightly darker sounding. The Intona had a smaller soundstage in both width and depth compared to the Recovery. I did find the Recovery to be a little more detailed with a slightly forward midrange perspective compared to the Intona.


和其他3个同类产品的对比

1)iFi micro-iUSB3.0用原配的线和电源时,声音温暖,中低频丰满。Recovery声场要更大一点,音色更平衡,比起iFi来更为中性。

2)Uptone Audio USB REGEN使用原配的接头和电源,听起来低频略少,清晰度非常好,但Recovery在我听起来更为平衡和中性。

3)Intona和Recovery的整体音色平衡非常相似,但Intona听感略暗,声舞台也较小一点,宽度和深度都是如此。我觉得Recovery的解析略高,中频稍微更前突一点。


Comparison Conclusions
I guess if I could only have one of these USB enhancement devices, I would select the Recovery USB Reclocker as it sounded the most neutral with the largest soundstage. But as one begins to change cables and power supplies, my top choice rankings change. For example, the iFi Audio micro-iUSB3.0 being fed with a Wireworld USB 3.0 cable, outperforms the Recovery, but at a significantly greater cost.


假如我只能用一个USB净化设备,我就会选择Recovery,因为它听起来声音最为中性,声舞台最大。假如换线、换电源,那么结论会有所变化,比如给iFi Audoi micro-iUSB3.0换为线世界的USB3.0线,可以表现更好,但是付出的代价就远远超过Recovery了。


Conclusion
At $199.00, the Wyred 4 Sound Recovery USB Reclocker offers excellent performance at a very reasonable price. One can boost the performance of the Recovery USB Reclocker by using a different USB cable from the device and a linear power supply like the HDPlex. However, I could be very happy just using the Recovery as supplied by Wyred 4 Sound and forget the many possible modifications.


总结:在199美金这样一个价格,Recovery这个产品提供了非常出色的表现,性价比很好。通过换USB线、换更好的线性电源,可以获得进一步提高,但是就用它原配的电源我已经觉得很开心了,可以忘却那些“升级方式”。


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本帖最后由 小白 于 2017-6-7 21:07 编辑

翻找了一下,Recovery这个小玩具我自己第一次听到是去年11月,当时在帖子里说过一点,拷贝在此。



下面一个小玩具叫Recovery。如下图,这玩意是个USB进、USB出的时钟重整优化设备(Reclocker),用于电脑和解码之间,作用是提高电脑USB输出的质量。卖249美金,带一个9V输出的小稳压电源。

这一类的产品也早就有了,并非W4S独创。比如耳机俱乐部论坛烧友熟悉的“泰坦鸟”就是类似的国产品。它们的大致原理都是依靠一个高精度的内部时钟和缓存,对输入的USB信号进行Reclock,或者叫时钟重整(时钟优化),然后输出更干净的数字信号给解码器。W4S比较考究的地方是还采用了外部供电,需要搭配一个稳压电源。类似的不少小玩具都是直接依靠USB供电的,方便是方便,但原理上不如Recovery考究。

Recovery这个东西接到电脑的USB口,是无须安装驱动的,只要电脑安装了后面所接的解码器的驱动程序,插上就能工作。 它上面有两个小指示灯,上面那个在锁住USB输入信号之后点亮,下面那个则指示是否USB2.0。个人觉得这个指示灯比较无聊,因为USB1.0也好、2.0也好,都没啥特别需要指出的意义。事实上现在也难找还在用USB1.0的古董设备了。

实际听感很容易发现把Recovery接在电脑和解码器之间,可以得到更干净、层次清晰、透明度提高的声音,在很多系统里都是立竿见影的。我觉得假如是主要听电脑+解码器系统的,希望在原有基础上不换解码器而提高声音表现,Recovery这个小玩具可以试试!


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最后给一个小建议,假如是用在档次较高的系统上,希望得到更好的结果,可以考虑升级那截USB线为更好的,并且升级稳压电源为更好的,比如台湾KECES DC116有9V输出的版本,用上那是更理想了。
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用过Jitter Bug,泰坦鸟,Intona USB Isolator,Sbooster Vbus2不但并未带来改善,还以不同的方式产生或多或少的劣化。

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说的太好了 这类产品有负作用的  发表于 2017-6-8 01:32
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两个杰特巴哥和瑞斯卡佛瑞一起用的路过
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有一点是要强调的,PC到USB处理器这一段的线绝不是不重要,而是后后面那段同等程度的影响声音。
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iLLogiCo 发表于 2017-6-7 21:24
有一点是要强调的,PC到USB处理器这一段的线绝不是不重要,而是后后面那段同等程度的影响声音。

没记错我曾经在刚收到W4S的时候试验过,用随机送的USB短线担任这东西和电脑USB口的连接与川流的老伙计担任之间的区别,发现如果用送的小短线,声场又下去了233
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如果你的USB线有一定档次了就要慎用这类USB处理器,因为有可能会拖累USB线的表现,除非你在前端使用一条一样的线。
而且我认为不是每个系统都需要这类处理器,一是你的PC输出的USB信号可能比你想象的要干净,二是这类处理器帮闲的也不少。USB信号最容易产生劣化的地方既不在前也不在后,恰恰就在传输线上,如果想投入的话换条好点的USB线带来的改善最直接。
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感觉像是一个USB转USB的数字界面
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用PC做源还是折腾
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隐隐约约看到一条套路,把USB解码器分拆成界面+解码,在把界面分拆成时钟+界面。背后都是烧鸟的钱啊。
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iLLogiCo 发表于 2017-6-7 21:38
如果你的USB线有一定档次了就要慎用这类USB处理器,因为有可能会拖累USB线的表现,除非你在前端使用一条一 ...

赞同,我常用泰坦鸟,我觉得实用程度看你的电脑有多脏
另外,他的价值在于极大的盘活了手机hifi,无论安卓苹果,声音要清晰干净了很多,或者win平板,它带来的最大的两个负面状态,动态小和干,这两个问题手机和平板摘下泰坦鸟也有,我500块钱买了一只wifi网卡坏了的thinkpad10,最新的win10,简单软件优化,电池供电,接泰坦鸟声音干净的可以,细节非常清晰,不知低噪爆音为何物,和普通台式机比声音素一点
还有就是它可以用来接usb设备,能消除一些额外的爆音可能性
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关于线上,我的实验的结果和鼠版一样,就是净化器离界面或者说电脑越近越好,还有一点就是它会很大程度的降低线的味道,所以在我大量的实验下,我感觉10块钱lg的原装16cm线声音最好,接hugo或者pha3上,比600块钱1.5米线圣的肉桂要略微清晰一点,低频结实一点,比隔壁三越的100块钱的1米线要硬一点,但是也是清晰
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gebegebe 发表于 2017-6-7 21:47
感觉像是一个USB转USB的数字界面

这跟界面是两码事啦......
p.s 白老板果然与时俱进……
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发表于 2017-6-7 23:21:44 | 显示全部楼层
为啥不干脆弄个界面,2条USB线好花钱的
这年头总有人喜欢秀下线,以突破下线为目标
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