QB9纯听感集中贴

frui

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12. 比AYRE CX-7E好：
I own the Ayre QB-9 USB DAC and it is terrific. I am very impressed with the way it sounds and yes, it is better sounding then my Ayre CX-7e CD player. The highs are better and so is the bass. The music is clearer and more engaging. My MAC Book Pro computer has 4 GB RAM and the 120GB solid state drive. I am using the Seaport Free Agent Go Pro 500GB external hard drive to store my music files (a 2nd one for backup). The Furman AC-215 power conditioner is required so the MAC computer does not interfere with the audio components. See www.furmansound.com/product.ph

I am using the Transparent USB Cable from the computer to the Ayre DAC. I followed Ayre's MAC Book setup instructions and they worked. The Audio MIDI setup was a little different from their instructions but we finally figured it out. The QB-9 is connected (balanced cables) to my Ayre AX-7e Integrated amp connected to my Sonus Faber Auditor M Speakers.
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bi ... enflup&11&4

ricepig

原帖由 htyhty 于 2009-11-19 00:10 发表 Lavry 11这么牛逼啊。。MACBOOK光纤输出质量很高么？

computer audiophile上普遍认为MacBook，PowerBook的数码输出或者1394输出更好，尤其是G4时代的本

xinxin1009

这都有点不靠谱了，，，越看越像larvy的枪文 — —
da11>qb9>cx-7e? 难道外国人的耳朵和中国人的长得都不一样？

frui

13. 比dCS Delius DAC -> dCS Purcell Upsampler好：
I ordered this two weeks ago after a home audition. I found out it made Stereophile product of the year after I ordered.

I heard it with a Transparent Audio USB cable ($100) and a Transparent Audio Power Link power cord. Jaw dropping good. I have another system here with dCS gear and this thing is good. Very, very musical. It didn't sound like just another redbook dac--it was very smooth, it didn't have that digital assault on the ears. Someone else used the term "liquid and air"--that is exactly how I would describe it as well. It was holographic and I heard stuff in some recording that I swear I never heard on the dCS system (that system has a huge Levinson amp and B&W N802 speakers).

Since I placed my order I upgraded my Windows 7 64 bit laptop to 4 gigs of ram. Full review to follow.
http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4 ... -454856/index2.html

frui

14. 拔出萝卜带出泥，竟然查出一个何庆华REFERENCE 1和罗技TRANSPORTER的盲听（！）对比。结果是.............听不出差别！这个很靠谱，因为新的REF1与二手的TRANSPORTER价格确实也差不多。
虽然与QB9无关，也收进来：
I ABx Ref1 with Logitech Transport with no upgrade at all. and I found the difference to be 'minimal' at best.

The source was network streamed for Logitech Transporter and I used the m2Tech hiface as well as using Transporter as a Source (which should have a very good jitter performance).

In the end, the difference is pretty much 'none' to MY ears. If I were to buy a new DAC, I don't mind buying Transporter nor Ref1.

What I am getting at is, the jitter performance is pretty much non-issue with reclocking dsp-1 inside the Ref1. It's mostly the power supply and the CHIP used inside the DAC.

[ 本帖最后由 frui 于 2009-11-19 08:54 编辑 ]

xajhzc

F大有空也关心下MARIAN的USB声卡吧
http://www.marian.de/en/products/ucon_cx
米兰也在USB上下过点功夫

小白

这些发烧友的实际听感比什么AYRE总裁发言要有价值. 当然AYRE总裁的发言有其他价值,可以从中判断出一些东西,但对于QB9这个具体器材的评价,还是烧友的听感有价值,总裁的说话没价值.

如果同样是接USB端口,我觉得QB9好于DA11,也好于DAC1USB,是没什么问题的,但这里的一段听感是环境不同的,大家要注意: 它是把MAC笔记本的光纤输出给DA11,对比USB输出给QB9. 注意这里给出的不是单个人的判断"DA11声音好",而是many preferred the Lavry.  除非写这段文字的人统计错误,否则就是在说在这种情况下更多人认为Lavry好. 这并不一定说DA11的解码部分比QB9好,也可能是因为MAC笔记本的光纤输出素质好,好于USB.

xinxin1009

原帖由 wbjia 于 2009-11-19 11:36 发表
总裁的说话可以做一个参考

他说的是自己家设计的着重点 ...

看中什么? 妥协什么? 成本主要在那里? 为什么没有采用别的厂家的某种设计等等。。。

Ayre总裁的访谈文章值得一看 内容是具体的

http://featu ...

的确值得一看 看看将来的发展趋势

wujiapeng

原帖由 ricepig 于 2009-11-19 01:14 发表
computer audiophile上普遍认为MacBook，PowerBook的数码输出或者1394输出更好，尤其是G4时代的本

等OSX有FOOBAR了我也用我的老G4试试～

小白

铁饭式的人物是到处都有的. 什么都听起来一样就不要发烧了,省事. 发烧本就是门需要细心鉴赏的爱好. 粗听听什么都一样就不要烧了. 这部分言论直接PASS掉就行了,不用纠结,看有价值的听感.

小白

人活着就是要不断学习,不断提高鉴赏,鉴别能力的. AYRE总裁说的话有它的价值和营养,但具体到QB9的声音,我们应相信自己的耳朵,而不是相信总裁的说法.  鬼老有一部分是可靠的,但很大一部分也不可靠. 人若是不懂得鉴别,只知全部听信或全部否认,那只能说,还需要学习和成长.

东东

原帖由 wbjia 于 2009-11-19 18:10 发表
Ａｙｒｅ总裁不可靠　鬼佬不可靠　Ｓｔｅｒｏｐｈｉｌｅ榜单不可靠　一部分ＤＩＹ不可靠　。。。

靠？　

商家的话都不可靠，可靠的是自己的耳朵。

xinxin1009

顶楼上一个 另外说一句 自己的耳朵也不可靠。。上岁数了听力还会下降呢  发烧这东西大多时候都是病态的，啥都不可靠~~

Elton

原帖由 flymemory 于 2009-11-19 00:16 发表


光纤口和USB比啊……

这样比未尝不可，因都是同一PC下！QB-9是USB异步传输，拿DA11的USB来比肯定不公平，这拿光纤对比我认为刚好。

如果DA11的光纤输出比QB-9好的话，那QB-9就没有价值了，售价摆在那！别拿QB-9只有USB为借口，如果艺雅对这个USB没信心的话，他就会多整几个输入口了

nadesicozhao

其他没听过 AB下来DA11真是不好听